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Beth McGilley, Center Plaintiff, Explains Why Kansas "Kiss and Tell" Policy Is a Bad Law

"The tiny windows we might get to look into to see [adolescents’] trauma — those shades are going to be closed," says Beth McGilley.


Beth McGilley is a clinical psychologist and eating disorders specialist in Wichita, Kansas. Beth was a plaintiff represented by the Center in Aid for Women v. Foulston.

Background
In 2003, Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline issued a new interpretation of the state’s child-abuse reporting law requiring that doctors, school counselors, and psychotherapists, among others, report sexual activity involving a teen younger than 16 as evidence of child abuse. The law is so broad it would even require a psychologist to report a teen who disclosed that she was "making out" with her boyfriend.

On October 3, 2003, the Center for Reproductive Rights filed a lawsuit challenging the attorney general’s opinion on behalf of a group of health-care providers and counseling professionals. The plaintiffs argue that the attorney general’s interpretation violates adolescents’ right to informational privacy and deters adolescents from seeking confidential health care or counseling. On April 18, 2006 Judge J. Thomas Marten permanently blocked enforcement of Phill Kline’s legal opinion, declaring it irreparably harmful and recognizing that minors have a right to informational privacy concerning sexual activity.

"We are extremely pleased that, for the first time, a federal court has protected young people from a state’s attempt to intrude in the private communications between teens and health-care providers. Any threat to that privacy will drive teens away from health-care services, endangering their well-being instead of protecting it," said Bonnie Scott Jones, lead attorney in the case and staff attorney at the Center. "States cannot be allowed to simply pull up a chair in every doctor’s office in the state and listen in on teenagers seeking health services." On May 16, 2006 Kline appealed the decision to the Court of Appeals for the 10th circuit.

Senior Editor Dara Mayers spoke with Beth McGilley in September 2005 about the case.

What are the implications of enacting Kline’s interpretation of the statute on your clients?
They’re huge. If young people come to my office, they come because they are in need. Otherwise they would not be in a therapist’s office. I’ll have to tell them: "If you tell me anything that makes me suspect that you are being sexually active, then I will have to report you to the Kansas Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services." I am going to silence them at the front door.

How will your practice be affected?
Therapy is private and confidential space. I take the sanctity of the therapeutic relationship very seriously. This interpretation threatens the most basic element of that relationship—the confidentiality and trust established between client and therapist. Having talked to my clients, I know that sexuality is an issue that young people have shame about anyway—if they know they are going to be reported to the state, they simply will not talk.

On a personal level, it will make my job almost impossible to carry out. If the mother of a teenager comes in and says "my daughter came home after the prom and said she and Johnny got caught kissing in the parking lot," that’s reportable! It doesn’t just silence folks under the age of 16. Theoretically I’d have to report virtually all of my clients. On a purely practical level, it takes between 30 to 45 minutes to make one abuse report— under this statute I would have to report 98 percent of my clients.

Is underreporting of sexual abuse a problem in Kansas?
We are already legally and ethically required to report suspected or known abuse. There are no data to show that underreporting is a problem. In fact, the system is already inundated with cases, and is already overextended in attempting to address children in need of care. To further burden the system with reports of normal sexual behavior among teenagers is unnecessary, and will create situations where teens who actually need care are overlooked.

Why did you become a plaintiff in this case?
Both for my clients, and because I am disturbed by the implications of Kline’s actions. The traditions of therapy and medicine have always been couched in the right to privacy. It is most disturbing and insulting as a professional who spent years in training to have this privilege and right questioned or denied. I am all for providing better support to families and kids who are traumatized. There are so many ways we can help abused children. The problem is not identifying them, it is helping them once they’re identified. I am more than happy to help Kline in that effort. But that does not seem to be his goal here.